随便说说 发表于 7-27 12:04:32

沉痛悼念动车追尾事故遇难者,并分析原因

首先沉痛悼念动车追尾事故遇难者!让我们用质量和安全管理体系的知识分析一下--为什么我们总是遭遇突变:
1、中国最大的乳制品企业,公司加农户模式的创立者,三鹿突然三聚氰胺了
2、中国最大的肉制品企业,放心肉的代表,双汇突然瘦肉精了
3、一直认为快捷、安全的动车组,突然追尾了
4、前一天还光环无数的企业,突然非法集资了,老板突然自杀了。。。。。。。
问题出在哪里?监管?

jackybye 发表于 7-27 13:50:54

有些国人功利心太强,就不择手段
大多数领域的监管很少或者没有

650516 发表于 7-27 15:19:12

监督是形式,管理是收费!

kojak585 发表于 7-27 18:26:03

其实大家可以从动车及高铁推出以来所发生的一系列事件反思一下,我们究竟需要什么样的质量
铁道部到底以谁为服务顾客对象?
它准确识别了大多数顾客的合理需求了吗?
ISO9001引导我们关注的是这样的质量吗?

wanglq123 发表于 7-27 20:40:35

客户对高铁的需求是什么?安全、快捷!

SZ6909 发表于 7-27 21:38:05

是管理者的心太黑!当管理者的多是:李心吾

天边一片云 发表于 7-27 21:56:12

监督是形式

gongniangui2008 发表于 7-28 00:05:50

赞同监管是形式、管理是收费!

wxsunhao 发表于 7-28 05:50:28

这里存在许多深层次的问题,需要大家反思

why197109 发表于 7-28 08:40:07

监督是形式,管理是收费!——精辟!这就是具有中国特色的监管。

d13931541319 发表于 7-28 10:33:49

赞同监管是形式、管理是收费

bigi521 发表于 7-28 15:56:18

赞同监管是形式、管理是收费。

SZ6909 发表于 7-28 21:22:35

强烈要求TDB执行:事故“四不放过”原则!

SZ6909 发表于 7-28 21:22:39

强烈要求TDB执行:事故“四不放过”原则!

d13931541319 发表于 7-29 16:12:48

赞同监管是形式、管理是收费!

xincz 发表于 7-29 17:38:13

我也发表一下我自己的一点见解,我还不是审核员,只从事过内审。
楼主说的三鹿,双汇等知名企业,他们肯定都通过食品质量安全的认证了吧,而且也通过监督审核和再认证了吧,难道认证不是一种监管?除去食品质量管理部门的监管,认证中心、审核员就没一点责任吗?有些消费者就算不相信某些部门的管理,也会认可ISO认证标志的。但是我们的认证标志值得消费者的信任吗?我们也是有自己的苦衷吧。真是悲哀。
我在高中的时候读红楼梦,那句‘假作真来真亦假’没明白怎么回事。大学时也没去想,毕业后工作了走出象牙塔,接触到社会现实,一下子就明白了这句话在现在社会的真意:坏人伪装成好人,我们连好人也不敢信了;毒奶粉伪装成好奶粉,我们什么国产奶粉也不敢喝了;品牌肉里出现瘦肉精,我们还敢吃什么肉?假的当做真得来卖,真得也就活不下去了。多希望不再雾里看花,让我们分的清真真假假,认证行业,你做的到吗?能给真真假假做个签定标签吗?

kojak585 发表于 7-29 17:50:18

xincz 发表于 2011-7-29 17:38 static/image/common/back.gif
我也发表一下我自己的一点见解,我还不是审核员,只从事过内审。
楼主说的三鹿,双汇等知名企业,他们肯定 ...

你的思考不无道理

liang晶晶 发表于 7-30 22:35:16

赞同监管是形式、管理是收费!!

大家所谈的肉制品企业、乳制品企业、还有动车的各种配套产品以及零部件供应商有大部份的都是通过了认证审核的企业……那么,再想想审核是什么?

yuql 发表于 8-1 15:58:58

监管?

及时雨 发表于 8-1 16:32:20

赞同:监督是形式,管理是收费!——精辟!这就是具有中国特色的监管。

shuchun1616 发表于 8-2 17:09:20

Renovated Waldorf Hotel brings the South Pacific to East Van
Waldorf Hotel
1489 East Hastings, Vancouver; waldorfhotel.com; 30 rooms with rates from $110. No eco-rating.
Unless you're a penny-pinching backpacker or a rough-and-tumble longshoreman, an invitation to stay at the Waldorf Hotel only a few months ago would have elicited quite a stare. Tucked away in an industrial pocket in East Vancouver, the complex, built in 1947, had been sorely battered by the passage of time, and long since stripped of its glamorous pedigree as one of North America's most renowned tiki-themed hotels.
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Relaunched in October under new management, the reimagined Waldorf is a boutique hotel and “creative hub” unlike any Vancouver has seen. Extensive renovations have elevated the property to a tourist hot spot that elegantly conveys the historic sentiments of its founders while ushering in an exciting platform for cultural exchange.
DESIGN
Celebrated Vancouver architect Scott Cohen worked in an intriguing, subtle mix of South Beach and Polynesian flair to bolster the hotel's midcentury modern architecture. But fear not tikiphiles, there are spaces, such as the Tiki Bar, where the hotel's original concept remains paramount, with the exoticism of the South Seas graciously honoured. Edgar Leeteg's velvet paintings are proudly displayed throughout the Waldorf; his eye-catching portraits splashed across black velvet have many calling the late American artist a lowbrow Picasso.
ROOMS
Tasteful bamboo embellishments greet the eye as you walk in the door. The rooms reflect the 1950s structural vibe, but with such stylish touches as the electric-pink disposable camera in the basket of mini-bar goodies. Enjoy the room's retro feel by using the old-school cassette player, accompanied by a series of mixed tapes recorded on the analog audiophile system in the Tiki Bar. Cuddle up under the crisp white bed sheets, and enjoy the rumbles of Mr. Pablo's Latin Psyche Cumbia, or any of the other one-of-a-kind playlists compiled by the record collectors, tastemakers and DJs participating in the Waldorf's listening library project.
AMENITIES
Free wireless Internet is available throughout “the compound” (as the staff has lovingly dubbed it) so you can plot out your shopping excursion in nearby Gastown while waiting on brunch. For those in the mood for local nightlife, both a club and cabaret reside on the hotel's lower level. And for stylish souvenirs and ultra-chic travel necessities, the Waldorf Gift Shop is a total gem. Here you can snap up West Coast essentials like a rain-ready pair of Native Shoes or a sleek braided leather wallet chain from Ken Diamond Designs. You'll also find a Lake and Stars lingerie boutique that recently opened in the hotel.
SERVICE
The genuine excitement exhibited by the staff is near startling. It appears that the newly assembled team is as enamoured with the revamped hotel as the guests exploring its historic corridors. Brand manager Danny Fazio is the perfect host, all too happy to let visitors in on new art installations or whip you up a soy latte.
FOOD
For casual meals, Café Nuba satisfies any falafel-related cravings. Ask for an extra helping of the homemade pickles to understand why this wildly successful eatery continues to open new locations throughout the city. Those after a fine-dining experience should find a table at the newly minted Leeteg Room. Delectable tapas-
inspired dishes like gambas al ajillo, which boasts plump prawns sautéed in red chilies, brandy and parsley, await. As does award-winning sommelier Kurtis Kolt's top-tier selections and inspired beer list. But don't leave without trying the cucumber-lime tequila cocktail Pepino Magico – just watch out for the chili-salt rim.
VERDICT
While offering a nod to the hotel's Polynesian lineage, the Waldorf redux has mercifully sidestepped kitsch to emerge as a landmark destination for creative travellers. A haven for artists, musicians and cultural thrill-seekers, the Waldorf offers an experience not easily forgotten, one that makes you feels as though you're vacationing in New York rather than the heart of Vancouver's east side.
Special to The Globe and Mail

dlp666 发表于 8-3 16:10:06

“天边一片云”讲得对----监督只是一种形式,而没真正行使监督职能,可悲啊!
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